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Carbon King David Koch Thinks Climate Action Will ‘Damage the Economy’, but Sandy Underscores Inaction is Much Costlier

Brad Johnson
Climate Progress / News Report
Published: Sunday 4 November 2012
“Not only has Koch Industries dumped billions of tons of carbon into the air, David Koch has spent hundreds of millions of dollars promoting climate deniers and Tea Party ideologues who fight regulation of carbon pollution.”
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Koch Industries billionaire David H. Koch is the wealthiest man in New York City, with a net worth of $31 billion. His fortune is built on polluting the climate system, from refining, pipeline, chemical, fertilizer, cattle, and forestry operations. The rising seas and superheated oceans made Hurricane Sandy into a monster that has caused upwards of $50 billion of damage to the greater New York area, by early estimates. Constructing a sea barrier to defend against future sea level rise will cost another $10 billion.

Not only has Koch Industries dumped billions of tons of carbon into the air, David Koch has spent hundreds of millions of dollars promoting climate deniers and Tea Party ideologues who fight regulation of carbon pollution.

In 2010, Koch told New York Magazine that global warming should be welcomed, even as coastlines dwindle from the rising seas:

Koch says he’s not sure if global warming is caused by human activities, and at any rate, he sees the heating up of the planet as good news. Lengthened growing seasons in the northern hemisphere, he says, will make up for any trauma caused by the slow migration of people away from disappearing coastlines. “The Earth will be able to support enormously more people because a far greater land area will be available to produce food,” he says.

In January 2011, ThinkProgress reporter Lee Fang confronted Koch as he left the swearing-in ceremony for Speaker John Boehner (R-OH). Fang questioned why Koch’s Tea Party front group, Americans for Prosperity supported climate denial and what his own position on climate science was:

FANG: Why does Americans for Prosperity focus so much on the science of climate change? I’m just curious why they spread so much information that denies the existence of climate, of global warming?

KOCH: Well… I think it’s uh, regulating CO2 excessively is going to put — uh really damage the economy.

FANG: Do you believe in climate change yourself? [...] Do you believe in climate change yourself, Mr. Koch?

KOCH: Climate does fluctuate. It goes from hot to cold. We have ice ages.

FANG: But do you believe carbon pollution affects climate change? [Koch shrugs]

Watch it:

David Koch should pledge his fortune to pay the government of New York City for all necessary repairs and investments to guard against future sea level rise and fossil-fueled storms.



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ABOUT Brad Johnson

Brad Johnson is the Editor for ThinkProgress Green at the Center for American Progress Action Fund. Brad holds a bachelor’s degree in math and physics from Amherst College and master’s degree in geosciences from the Massachusetts Institute for Technology. He is the co-author of Technomanifestos and the founder of HillHeat.com. Prior to joining the Center, he worked as a developer for Saatchi & Saatchi, Lextranet, and the Democratic National Committee. Brad grew up in Boston, Massachusetts.

So, the monster leech, David

So, the monster leech, David Koch, thinks that global warming is all good. We'll be able to farm the northern latitudes so we can have 10 or 12 or 14 billion people walking around on this planet. Wow, he and his cronies will be able to drill for oil where the arctic ice cap once was. Lots of hydrocarbons to power the system that will ultimately destroy modern civilization. Where is the plan to use sustainable sources that generate electricity, making clean hydrogen fuel possible? Where is the corporate funding to develop the hydrogen infrastructure? We will have to make it ourselves. We can't count on the transnational corporations to do it. Here is the plan: www.daveworld.biz/ekson-exhilaration.

Science-based solutions to

Science-based solutions to Climate Change cannot be effectively implemented because we currently have government of the people by the lobbyists for the rich and powerful corporations (for example Exxon Mobil). Those who have the gold make the rule. And those people refuse to allow any science-based solutions that jeopardize their sources of income. If you want to change this unfair situation we first need to reinstate government of the people by the people and for the people. The vast majority of US citizens very much desire science-based solutions to Climate Change. We can implement science-based solutions when we get as many signatures as possible on the following petition (Click on, or if necessary, please copy and paste into your browser.): http://signon.org/sign/take-money-out-of-politics.

Ha ha ha when it all

Ha ha ha when it all implodes, the earth won't be supporting anything.

Wow, the congress is a

Wow, the congress is a whorehouse. Well said! And we may have a few good "public servants" but the idea of being governed by Sociopaths is what I've seen!
These 1% have money beyond I and most people can imagine.
These guys could do so much good if they were capable of empathy.
Some of the most sociopathic includes Bush, Cheney, Rove, Paul Ryan, and Mitch McConnell. I would include Kris Kobach, and
Of course Romney his wife and brood are perhaps the worst. His Tagg, the night he wanted to clobber Obama, his eyes and expression looked pure demonic.
Romney got to Billy Graham, who says that Mormons are Christians. He pulled the "cult" status off them. Either he has alzheimers or some other dementia to say something like this. Read some of the things ex-Mormons say to see just how non-Christian they are.
the televangelists are corrupt too.
out of climate change we will suffer much more bizarre weather. The beaches, some wash away every year and the government spends so much to re-build them every year. The poor are not living on ocean-front property.

I think man-made global

I think man-made global warming is a reality that few people would have the moxie to deny these days.

I hate to say this - I have a son residing in Manhattan - but I don't think New York City has an extended future, and though I was born in New Orleans, I wouldn't rebuild there if that was my home now. New Orleans has always been lower than the sea, and I don't see the levees as a permanent cure in a time of rising sea levels. New York? So much depends on underground transport and utilities in that city, and I think the Big Apple will face a number of "Sandy" superstorms in the years ahead.

The Koch Brothers? Why would anyone give credence to their notions of Climate Change and how to confront it? But, good grief, to actually celebrate it as a reason to INCREASE human population? The world population has already surpassed the realistic and sustainable carrying capacity of our planet, so why would any sane person say we should have more people? He's so short-sighted, he probably just envisions more customers for his products.

Water, especially potable water, will be the new "oil" of the future, meaning it will be the valuable resource our civilizations needs. So say many experts. (And who will be the CEOs charging high prices for it?) Maybe Koch figures everyone can migrate northward and lick the disappearing ice to slate their thirst.

This is Koch's argument: “The

This is Koch's argument:

“The Earth will be able to support enormously more people because a far greater land area will be available to produce food. . . .”

And we can't even give jobs to those who wish to work with current population levels.

So, tell me, why is ever increasing populations a good thing?

Why don't these delusional parasites just die of old age and take their dumb looking false teeth with them?

Have your fun boys, because your footnote in history will be along the lines of those who believed in the heliocentric universe.

Listen boys, no matter how high on your horse you are today, just remember on thing: At your age, in less than 20 years your just more rotting meat. Think about that one.

It's doubtful whether the

It's doubtful whether the extinction of climate change deniers would matter. The vast bulk of those people are imeciles and conspiracy whackos with no political power. The real threat to the survival of the human race is the small, but obscenely rich handful of grasping, greedy, monsters like the Koch brothers who, driven by an insatiable lust for wealth, have used their mind-staggering fortune to turn the U.S. Congress into a whorehouse. Those two know full well that what they're doing is killing the planet. They couldn't care less. THEY WANT MONEY!!! They would gleefully kill off all of human civilization for a doller ninety-eight, and then turn on each other in the hope that one of them would end up having it all! We're seeing the advent of the end of a civilization governed by sociopaths.

Grow what kind of food???

Grow what kind of food??? Assume only that transgenically modified and created in the lab by Monsanto et al...Is this a stock market momment...Koch leaving coal and buying up corn?

In the conflict between

In the conflict between profits of very few and the mayhem of climate disasters for many, we shall see who wins this battle.... Since some of those damaged by the climate disasters are equally, if not more, powerful as the the few, my hunch is that we have reached a tipping point in the denial conspiracy and will see action in the near future to save the planet and force the polluters to clean up their messy operations....

It's amazing how the public

It's amazing how the public takes people with no knowledge so seriously. The Koch brothers have NO knowledge of ecology, yet they profess expertise. And, it's not just global warming that is problematic, but the entire "peak" of all resources. Global warming just compounds the issues of adequate energy (a one-way street), food, water, clothing, housing, and any other materials we've come to expect.

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