The ‘Geezers’ are Right This Time
Alan Simpson let loose at a group of Californians who charged in a brochure that he and Erskine Bowles were "using the deficit to gut our Social Security." The former Republican senator from Wyoming sent the California Association of Retired Americans a characteristically colorful response, which I quote: "What a wretched group of seniors you must be to use the faces of the very people (the young) that we are trying to save, while the 'greedy geezers' like you use them as a tool and a front for your nefarious bunch of crap."
I can't not like Simpson, but he is wrong this time, and the activists are right. The plan named for him and former Clinton Chief of Staff Bowles bravely confronted soaring deficits with balanced spending cuts and tax hikes. Upon its release, the tax-a-phobic Grover Norquist called Simpson "old and grumpy." Simpson fired back with "old Grover Norquist and his happy band of goofy warriors, all they do is make money off of people." And I, too, have made past reference to "greedy geezers."
But Simpson-Bowles had no business dragging Social Security into the operating room, and here's why: Social Security is an independent, self-funding program. It is not welfare. The workers and their employers pay for all of it.
About 25 years ago, Social Security taxes were raised above that needed to support current retirees and the surplus put in a trust fund. The goal was to create a buffer to keep the program healthy as the number of retirees grew and lived longer. Left alone, Social Security can pay all promised benefits for the next 20 years, and can continue doing so with some minor adjustments, such as raising the cap on income subject to payroll taxes.
Conservatives and "centrists" who call for compromise on the Social Security Trust Fund still don't get it, so let's bang the gong again: The trust fund represents real money taken out of workers' pockets, and the money it loaned the Treasury is really owed.
Simpson-Bowles did fine calling for a curb on projected entitlement spending. That, of course, includes Medicare, the health-insurance plan for the elderly. Unlike Social Security, Medicare is not self-supporting. Medicare payroll taxes and payments by beneficiaries cover only some of it.
The Social Security Trust Fund is a big piece of change, and by declaring the Treasury securities sitting in it "worthless pieces of paper," our right-wing politicians can throw the obligations overboard in the service of more tax cuts for the rich — with the added bonus of killing off a program they never liked much. Often citing some scuzzy accounting methods applied to the surplus, they tell us, "Whoops, the money has been spent."
Well, duh, all the money the Treasury borrows has been spent. That's why it borrows money. Every bond it issues to investors across the globe represents a debt. And if the Treasury hadn't been able to borrow that money from the trust fund, it would have had to borrow more from the public.
Then-Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan was asked in 2001 whether the trust fund investments were real or not. His response: "The crucial question: Are they ultimate claims on real resources? And the answer is yes."
The California Association of Retired Americans was overenthusiastic but correct in its assertion that Simpson-Bowles envisioned using Social Security to balance budgets that the program is not supposed to be part of. They were perhaps unfair to imply that the intention was to gut Social Security. Some politicians might like that, but the more realistic explanation is that many simply don't know what they're doing.
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9 comments on "The ‘Geezers’ are Right This Time"
May 29, 2012 3:47pm
Froma Harrop, nationally syndicated columnist, guess you're drinking allot of Kool-Aid from the likes of Simpson.
Stating as fact, “They were perhaps unfair to imply that the intention was to gut Social Security. Some politicians might like that, but the more realistic explanation is that many simply don't know what they're doing."
I never want to enter your dreamy reality, where the gutting & theft of what belongs and due the common citizen by the ultra wealthy, is so casually excused or reinterpreted, to make it easier to accept, their actions & acts.
Twenty-five years ago it merely became a more tantalizing prey for them to take. Where do you think this privatization BS stems from?
Evil is as evil does, this they seek is more than situational evil because they’re getting you & yours to buy into a mentality while waving their flags, that their just people too.
Sure, and naive politicians are not evil just childlike. No! they are the minions of those who seek to pillage America, if he’s that stupid, misinformed, he doesn’t belong in office. Why do you try to make it easier for them? From your ‘credentials’ I’d hope you see reality in much more HD. I don’t accept as a given it’s OK for them that many simply don't know what they're doing. Yes! they do for they do it so well. Abortion Rights, Voter Registration, Tax Exemptions etc.
However the publications listed do have a certain economic bias, are they all FOX owned? Your spin on facts is slick, it isn’t about the money, or greed, or lust etc. but that the rich & their tools are fallible humans too, maybe a bit over zealous& clumsy. Nah, didn’t work, try, try, again.
Oh the ‘old geezers’ are right on all counts on this one, kid.
God don't bless America! WE, the people ... DO!
May 29, 2012 2:33pm
It is time to face reality, Social Security Trust funds are invested in United States Securities. Those are the same securities that investors around the world are beating the doors down to invest in. They are considered by the investment community as the worlds safest investments. That is why the US need pay only about 2% to borrow on a 10 year note. and less than 3% for 30 years. But some ask: Where will the money come from when the notes mature? Well I am sorry that you don't realize that that happens every month of the year. Year after year. And the government has a well established system to deal with it. It's called refinancing the federal debt. They hold auctions to sell new notes to replace maturing ones. It is just routine proceedure for the Dept. of the Treasury. So let's stop all the nonsense about Social Security going broke. It isn't. As for the long term funding shortage, just eliminate the cap on earnings subject to the SS tax and the problem goes away, forever.
June 04, 2012 10:09pm
I am Floyd Bowman One correction regarding your statement that "Those are the same securities that investors around the world are beating the doors down to invest in." Sorry, that is simply not true. Thes securities are "Special Issue Govenment Bonds" issued by the Treasury. THEY HAVE NO REAL VALUE. THEY SIMPLY PROVIDE A PAPER RECORD OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT OWES SOCIAL SECURITY, SIMPLE IOUs. They don't draw interest and are simply backed by the Good Faith of the United States Government. If they don't want to pay them back they don't have to. It amounts to nothing less than fraud and theft by our Government. Given our monetary situation, I don't think there is much of a chance for repayment of the $2. 7 trillion that has been stolen.
May 29, 2012 1:29pm
The Unified Budget Act should have been titled the Unified Democratic/Republican Plan to Fund Incumbents Campaigns, Provide Graft for Contributors, and Make Average Tax Payers Pay for Political Corruption Act. Yes the entitlement (NOT welfare) money is owed to the American workers, but it has already been used. This must be the largest program in which politicians redistribute money from working people to the wealthy.
Here's an idea, why don't we change the law so that it is illegal to have this type of arrangement, collect back taxes for the last 35 years retroactively using a fair tax system, and perhaps imprison a number of those most guilty of abusing the system. Oh that's right, political corruption has been well funded for the last 35 years.
May 29, 2012 1:03pm
//But Simpson-Bowles had no business dragging Social Security into the operating room, and here's why: Social Security is an independent, self-funding program. //
That sounds great... until you learn the details.
The money that is paid into SSA never makes it there.
It is used to pay present SSA obligations and the 'excess' is spent by CONGress and the president -- but kindly replaced with "Assets held in special issue U.S. Treasury securities"
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/210/kw/describe%20SS...
in short an IOU.
When those IOU's mature (no matter what they are called) - where is that money going to come from? There in lies the rub.
May 30, 2012 12:04pm
The money will come from the same damn place it does to wage all these unnecessary, ill advised and unjustified wars all over the place.
May 29, 2012 12:27pm
Social Security is an independent, self-funding program. It is not welfare. The workers and their employers pay for all of it. It is not welfare. With some minor adjustments, such as raising the cap on income subject to payroll taxes, and making Social Security Benefits be "Means Tested" would solidify it for the next 75 years.
May 30, 2012 12:06pm
Remove the cap. Do not means test. If we means test Social Security the right wing will call it a welfare program and dismantle it. Limbaugh (the ass) already calls it a welfare program.
May 29, 2012 1:05pm
If it was not welfare then there would be no need to means test.