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Richard (RJ) Eskow
Published: Tuesday 4 October 2011
As movement participant Nelini Stamp told the Take Back the American Dream conference this morning, “We don't have demands. If we make demands of Wall Street, we’re saying that Wall Street has the power.”

Here’s Occupy Wall Street’s “One Demand”: Sanity

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Even the sympathizers don't always get it. I'm sure I get a lot of things wrong too, but here's one thing I do understand: Change doesn't begin with policy. It begins with perception. And you don't change things by asking. You change them by acting.

But it begins with perception. "All money is a matter of belief," as someone once said.

In the New York TimesNick Kristof shows that he understands the #OccupyWallStreet movement more than most of his peers. "The protesters are dazzling in their Internet skills," he writes, "and impressive in their organization."

But like many other sympathetic observers, he misses their most important point when he says "the movement falters in its demands" because "it doesn't really have any."

As movement participant Nelini Stamp told the Take Back the American Dream conference this morning, "We don't have demands. If we make demands of Wall Street, we're saying that Wall Street has the power."

But the fact that the movement doesn't make demands of Wall Street - or Washington, for that matter - doesn't mean it doesn't have demands. It does, but they're not directed at Wall Street, or K Street, or Pennsylvania Avenue. They're directed at you. And at me, and at every other citizen in this country.

To be sure, these "demands" are't couched in the strangely condescending and hostile language of all the Democratic fundraising emails going around lately. ("You think of yourself as a smart voter, don't you?" said one I got this weekend). These "demands" come in a friendler, more respectful tone, that of one person saying to another, "Hey, did you see that?"

Some mainstream liberals and politicos rolled their eyes at the protestors' response to requests that they come up with "one demand." Their "one demand" page includes the execution of Troy Davis ("Ending capital punishment is our one demand"), Yahoo's blocking of emails that included the occupywallst URL ("Ending corporate censorship is our one demand"), and a list of others: "Ending health profiteering is our one demand." "Ending American imperialism is our one demand."

That was a signal for the snark to commence. "I'm not a genius at math," said one commenter, "but I've been counting these demands and I've gone way past one." Meanwhile well-intentioned voices like Kristof and my friend Mike Konczal helpfully provided them with policy demands. And they're good ones: A financial transactions tax. Investigate Wall Street crimes. Cancel excessive debts.

But the "one demand" that matters most is directed at our society, not our policymakers, and it's much more fundamental than these excellent ideas. The demand is this: "Come back to sanity." That's the underlying demand that unifies all those items on the #OccupyWallSt website. Our culture is insane today, and they recognize that. Create a transactions tax, and they'll simply rob us another way - until we restore our society to sanity.

"Sanity: The ability to think and behave in a normal and rational manner; sound mental health. Reasonable and rational behavior." Oxford Dictionaries Online

The scope of our confusion and delusion can't be addressed by specific policy measures, any more than you might have overthrown Mubarak's regime in Egypt with a "single demand" to end the torture of political prisoners, or fixed elections, or the theft of the nation's billions by Mubarak and his cronies. The first step is to lift the veil from everyone's eyes, as they did in Egypt, to say to others and to themselves: "This isn't democracy - and it isn't inevitable. We can change it."

Why mention Troy Davis and the death penalty while you're demonstrating against the power of corporations and the big banks? Because executions are a diversion that corporate America throws at the people to draw our attention away from their misdeeds.

The public's getting upset: Wage inequality is worse than its been in modern history. Bailed-out bankers are still paying themselves huge bonuses with taxpayer money. Our corporate politicians always know what to do in a tight spot like that: Kill another black man and change the subject. That's how Troy Davis fits into the demonstrators' "one demand."

Why is "American imperialism" on the list? Because politicians in both parties are determined to cut Social Security and Medicare, even as they support military bases around the world and prosecute two unnecessary wars. Those bases and those wars enrich the corporations that serve the Defense Department.'' Those wars are a symptom of democracy hijacked by corporations.

Why is "corporate censorship" on the list? Because in both a literal and metaphorical sense, certain information is marginalized or blacklisted in our social media and our traditional media. A majority of Republican voters - not Democratic voters, Republicans - want to protect Social Security benefits and close tax loopholes. A vast majority of Americans want the government to create jobs more than it wants deficits to be cut..

But try finding a news report about the budget that doesn't treat these ideas as marginal, extreme, "lefty," and impractical. See how hard it is? That's corporate censorship.

In every voice, in every ban,the mind-forg'd manacles I hear.William Blake

Here's how insane this country has become. You can find "liberal" pundits and leaders from both parties on every channel who will condemn American homeowners as morally bankrupt and unworthy of help. But the banks they trusted, who sold them mortgages on the false promise that real estate values would rise forever, and who then when on a crime spree, walked away free. And their CEOs are broadcast and quoted as they were legitimate, mainstream American voices.

That's insane.

While the middle class dies and the ranks of the poor swell, this country is talking about cutting the government's spending. While one home in four is underwater, this country's worried about the financial health of banks. While we fight two unnecessary wars, war criminals like Dick Cheney are given television platforms as if they were simply representing a different political point of view.

That's insane.

We executed an innocent man in Georgia while guilty people on Wall Street go free. That's insane.

Conservative Democrats whose views are far to the right of Richard Nixon's, and sometimes even of Ronald Reagan's, are considered the "left" side of the debate. That's insane.

How do you end insanity? By seeing the reality as it is - not by seeing parts of the truth, but by seeing the whole. You start by seeing that we're being run by, and manipulated by, a system. It's a corporate system that drives our politics, our news, and even our entertainment. You begin to see it as a system that's overthrown our basic values and discarded our basic sense of decency, replacing them with an exaltation of consumerism and a condemnation of the unfortunate.

People have been waiting for someone to connect the dots. They've been waiting for someone to explain how these forces act together and work together to exploit us. They want to know how and why they're been losing their wealth, their security, and even their self-esteem.

The #OccupyWallSt protestors are succeeding. They're carrying the message - and they're being heard. They've won over the Transit Workers Union, the Airline Pilots Union, the SEIU, and - in an echo of Tahrir Square - soldiers in uniform who are willing to defend them. You don't do that by proposing a financial transactions tax, as important as that is. You do that by demanding an end to the insanity, the madness that's being manufactured and distributed every day by the leaders of corporate America.

John Samuelson, head of the Transport Workers Union, told Keith Olbermann that his union and the protesters are "singing the same song." My work takes me deep into the weeds of economic policy, but there comes a time to recognize that a financial transactions tax - necessary as it is - is not a "song." Before the words, there's the music. And it's the music that makes us dance."Emancipate ourselves from mental slavery,none but ourselves can free our minds."Bob Marley

Being as analytical as he is, Konczal delves deeply into the theories of anarchist movements and "autonomous zones." It's a fascinating read, even if you've read up on this sort of thing. But the main point is: This is a song, not a policy platform, and there's no one composer. Everybody's making it up as they go along, and everyone else is welcome to join - as long as they don't lose the beat.

Let's compile our list of policy ideas. They're badly needed. But first comes the song: End the corporate-driven insanity. Restore the values that have guided our country for more than 200 years. Make us human again. Make us a community again. Make us sane again.

Oh, wait. I almost forgot to tell you who said that "all money is a matter of belief." It was Adam Smith, who's been adopted by the free-market types as their philosopher/guru. Smith was right. A change in the money begins with a change in our minds. More socially conservative liberals may be uncomfortable at the protesters' dress code, or their masks, or slogans that sound strange to older ears.

Well, as they say, "democracy is messy." And sometimes it wears masks or unusual clothes or says cryptic things. But when it comes to the beliefs that drive an economy, that "matter of belief" that makes us who we are financially, then - as the Who used to say - "the kids are alright."

The Who. British guys from the sixties. Never heard of 'em? "Hope I die before I get old"? Ah, forget it. Different generations sing different songs. But they sing for the same reason people say birds sing: To be free.

That's why Nick Kristof recognizes that what he's seeing in lower Manhattan is the same thing he saw in Tahrir Square. It's what I saw in Eastern Europe, too, during the fall of Communism. It's democracy in its purest form. That's why the Transport Workers are coming to the demonstrations. And the pilots. And maybe even the Marines, if the rumors are true.

It's the reason I'll be there, too. How about you?



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ABOUT Richard (RJ) Eskow

Richard (RJ) Eskow is a well-known blogger and writer, a former Wall Street executive, an experienced consultant, and a former musician. He has experience in health insurance and economics, occupational health, benefits, risk management, finance, and information technology.

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Thanksgiving Day, 2011,

Thanksgiving Day, 2011, U.S.A.--I am truly thankful for the Occupy Wall Street movement. It has already done so much for me, for my fellow Americans and for my country. There is now a national dialogue that is focused on an inherent unfairness that has been festering like a cancer in our society. This sickness has manifested in symptoms such as unequal access to our political process, unequal access to health care and educational institutions, disparity of treatment under our legal system, energy, agricultural, transportation and housing that is not sustainable and a labor force that has been taken for granted.

Although ordinary Americans, like myself, have felt this sickness in our guts, we have been distracted from identifying it for what it is by a political paradigm that pits us against one another, a mainstream media owned by corporations that profit from our distraction and great wealth that until recently had been distributed just evenly enough to avoid mass protest.

We are no longer distracted! Thank you OWS. Read more: http://www.outlierideas.com

1. GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS

1. GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS !

Everything else will fall into place as elected officials will now work to do what is best for the majority instead of the minority.

http://www.getmoneyout.com/

Drafted on November the 19th,

Drafted on November the 19th, 2011.

Of the ‘#occupy’ movement, a symptom of a nation that is divided and unfocused in our course, we have observed issues in our government which require remedy for us to proceed together as a single country. Our nation is in need of new resolutions if our union is to survive.
It is therefore with hope, that this proposal will remerge our nation, and afford a much needed reconciliation between our very diverse groups.

It is prosed the following:

1. New unicard i.d.
Too many times we have been misidentified; compactions of records and identity theft and fraud and abuse have left us on the defensive, eternally proving our innocence. We demand all i.d. be barcoded and all record entry be made by such barcode. Let no clerk or point of entry be made manually, let no review of credit or misconduct be audited by any point of entry for such i.d. nor may any such point allow any direct alteration to id.
Further, the closures of the following agencies are demanded from such abuse: a) driver improvement, b) the division of motor vehicles, c) office of child support. Such agencies and agents have proceeded without court docket or audit of claim, and must be forfeit. There is no alteration or reconciliation that can be made with such agencies. All such records and claim of punishment, forfeiture, fine or levee from these offices must be audited and to be made compliant with our laws via court trail.

2. All banks are to be forbidden from receiving any i.d. other than unicard.
The banks have refused to admit acceptance of identification other than social security cards (such as work id, passports, green cards, driver’s license) in lieu of social security cards have caused misidentification of creditors and debtors. These entities have insisted that only social security i.d. was used in the issuance of loans and have engaged in fraud after fraud; this claimed extension of credit to Americans who have been refused housing as a result. Such charter violations REQUIRE full closure of such entities and full return of confiscated-- without a docket-- funds and accounts… claimed to be abandoned or owed. We demand the department of the treasury act as receipt for ALL citizens and hold no foreign business or funds. We require all funds and goods be confiscated from these entities for reissue to the public by claim, and no entity to operate without public approved and renewed form of charter, to include the demand of barcode entry of national i.d.

3. Let no American with less than one house be denied such extension of credit to purchase one house, and let no limit of value to be placed on such a residence.

4. Let us stand fast to our already established laws that state: No person born in the United States of America of no citizen shall be called or claimed to be American, and further, be barred from residence within the United States. Instead such persons must be returned to their parent’s country of origin. Those born of one citizen are to be required in naturalization and/or confirmation of citizenship.

5. Let no child of foreign country be so adopted into the United States of America before all American children of previous date of birth be stated to have been adopted.

6. Let our benefits of emergency (social security, disability, unemployment, ANFC, ect.) be bound into one agency, and to have no fiscal year equate total benefits beneath poverty level.

7. At no time are any emergency benefit funds to be receded or discharged, but must remain as assets to our nation until their distribution. Let it be prohibited for any group or agency to draw from such funds—only individuals of citizenship may receive them.

8. Let no foreigner or immigrant or citizen applicant to be tax exempt. Let all foreign persons be subject to two times (2x) tax until such time as either they have naturalized or made declaration through customs.

9. Let us again hold fast to our laws, requiring that: Any visitor not in compliance of identification be forfeit.
Let it remain that all passports are valid for 14 (fourteen) days; visa to six (6) months, travel permit to be 30, 60, or 90 days; student permit for no greater than 2 semesters—before the visitor must return to their country of origin.
Let it also remain: Marriage to a U.S. Citizen does NOT gain citizenship, instead such relationship requires that the spouse naturalize and or the Citizen does depart.

10. Let no Senator, House Member, Governor, Justice or any other representative and/or agent of state have any salary greater than two and a half (2.5x) times the average mean income for the area they represent.

11. Let no person who has broken a contract keep any funds received toward such contract.
100% (One hundred percent) remittance of all collected funds must be made within 30 days of the contract termination date—NO EXEMPTION.
Too many times purchase agreements, especially those of ‘Rent to Own’—whereby ownership is promised and therefore considered sales agreement and/or contract—have been said to violated and the consideration confiscated without forfeiture of payment. The sellers have been keeping such funds as collected toward property in violation of our laws. We demand reimbursement IN FULL. Most especially with regards toward housing and vehicles, where ownership was promised and not applied. Such persons who keep said funds must be made to stand trial for ‘criminal acts of larceny’.
12. Let no company claim of reporting.
We demand relief of suffering from reporting agencies. In specific: TransUnion, Experian, Equifax, Credit Chex Systems, USIS, ect. Let no business claim such knowledge of us.
This vigilante behavior must cease and desist, for were any of the claims against us valid, then it would not have been any superior feat as to provide remedial evidence of exchange of goods or service and/or docket number of criminal activity. Suffer us no debt without docket. Any such group, individual or entity which claims such reporting must be brought forward on criminal proceedings of ‘Acts of Treason’.

13. Let no private company, agent or agency collect funds to be held for times of strife, illness or distress. Let no private group manage such funds, let no private citizen said to be holding funds for ill event for another person, group, or entity.
Such collection has proven criminal in nature, due to failure of distribution and dispersement of such funds upon need or demand. Let only the government’s tax and tilde remain for such unfortunate circumstance/event. Any such person claiming such illegal service is to be charged with ‘criminal malcontent’, ‘illegal banking’, and/or ‘illegal and false agency’.

14. Let no claim of unclaimed probate be received by any private or public individual or agency—all unclaimed probate must be forfeit to social service for service of estate, then if no claim is still made, must be forfeit to the emergency benefit pool.

15. Let congress be forfeit in issue of identification for the national i.d.—such issue is now to be made of the Justice Department; let Congress remain in hold of constructing rules and regulation of these identifications and their pools.
It has come to us that no prosecution of fraud for misuse or abuse of identification has been made as the issuing party (Congress) had made no protest over such mis-issuance and abuse. It remains then that maintenance of such issue must be given to agencies for enforcement and patrol. It also comes to us that the justice department has the equipment and resources to physically identify the party of issue, and any party that is not of legitimate issue. It would be sensible to have such surety of physical issue be given to the Justice Department.
Further, it is forbidden to issue secure i.d. through post or third party.

16. Let no claim be forwarded or tolerated in suggesting that driving is a privilege.
Operation of equipment and machinery is a skill, and not to be subject to forfeiture or suspension for any slight other than that in direct violation of such operation. It is also to be prohibited to suspend any such licensure for any debt, angst, and/or misdemeanor not directly pursuant to operation of such vehicles or equipment.

17. Let no owner of any land and/or property be cited to require any permit or paid for service for such lands or property. Let such recommendations remain as recommended, but not made of law or legal requirement. Exemption: a) whereby property is to be made public use. b) where by government facility or structures remain as such to require permit in motion.
Let no utility remain whereby the owner is in protest, and any such requirement of transversal be subject to rental fees of the owner’s discretion.

It is well known that not only those of the #occupy movement have been aggrieved and harmed by the lack of attendance to these matters. It has come to light that a strong lack of enforcement by judiciary officers has resulted in our current divide. To these new rules the following laws should be made and enforced:

18. Let no public officer hold any property so termed or claimed as ‘investment’.

19. Let no officer be permitted to claim any property without forfeiture of market value.

20. Let no court officer remain where an excess of 100 complaints remain unanswered for greater than 90 days.

21. Let no court officer remain who refuses to make appointment with any and all constituents upon request.

22. Let no court assign agency of any competent person of majority, and none to be assigned without family agreement of other status.
23. Let no involuntary custody or accoutrements, service, or residence thereof be permitted to require payment of any kind. No funds from any source outside of budget accorded to such facilities and officers may be employed.

Additionally in civil function it shall be that:

24. No child may be removed from its birth parent.
Agencies and parties who are more concerned for a child’s welfare than equally as much as for the child’s parents shall be charged with ‘civil disruption’. It cannot be tolerated such interference and determination to break up and destroy families as that which has been put forward. Any grandparent who made claim against their own child for custody of grandchildren must forfeit $150,000 fine to their offspring, and an additional $50,000 to the state for ‘chicanery’.

It is believed and deeply hoped that with these affirmations will allow a healing of our great nation. The citizens of this country have appeared to have made protest again and again with regard to these same issues. It is with a deep sense of frustration and hopelessness that we have born witness to these same tragedies time and again. I pray that all of us can use this accord to heal the rift that has besieged our union. If you will, please review this document, and please employ your vote and say. Sign to any, sign to all—but make your voice heard and count.

Name Address
(I.T. w/ SS# if homeless) Contact via
(phone/e-mail/mail) Agree to
(all, some, don’t agree)

The true changes needed are

The true changes needed are in the economic regulations around banks, and financial institutions. Our policy makers need to act soon. Public protests are the only way the poor can ever be heard - especially in this day and age of vast noise in the media - print, electronic etc. etc.:- Elimination of fractional reserve banking- Strict caps/regulations on leverages used by financial institution- Separation of consumer (personal) banking from commercial (business) banking- Size cap on banks - banks should not get to revenue sizes past a percentage point of the GDP- Corporations are not individuals- Eliminate corp. contributions to politicians/political causes- High reward and low risk for CEOs - they don't go hungry if they loose a job or go bankrupt.

What is the demand? Nothing

What is the demand? Nothing short of DEMOCRACY.What is the action? Building a society that values each human being through an exemplar community that puts a premium on DEMOCRACY.What is the Problem? The crony capitalism of Wall Street is corrupting the democracy of the United States of America. The demand is reasonable. The complaint is valid, and the methodology is peaceful. outlierideas.com

I agree with the most of what

I agree with the most of what you say. But at one part singling out Republicans, saying that they want to save Social Security, it appears to me that their plan is to give social security to wallstreet.
Maybe our Social security should have been invested in Mortgage Derivatives??? ???
and that they want to close tax loopholes, I believe that the Republicans they He Hawed at
Warren Buffett for saying that tax loopholes should be closed.

You know the Supreme Court recent ruled that only 20% of the nation had any voice --
that money was voice -- so the 20% that has 85% of the wealth has the voice and the 80% of us that has only15% of the wealth barely has enough to whisper.

The major cause of the Depression - like of regulation on the Financial Institutions.
So what happened in 2008

Maybe we should understand some things that got us here.

Lets look at Jobs.
The free trade term and the large imbalance began around the 1980s with Japan and continued through the 1990"s and the 2000's with China and others.
We need fair trade not free trade. - Maybe it would work if our trading rules were--If your trade with me balanced with my trade with you there would be no tariffs -- but when there is an imbalance tariffs kick in.
Or at least a negotiated, With each trading partner the size imbalance when tariffs kick in.
We have had the best store front location in the world that we have given it
away.
We need FAIR TRADE not free trade

Now our Banking and Financial Institutions and some other Corporations.
Problems with our Financial Institutions started in the 1980's with deregulation and with interstate banking. Then with mergers and ect. they got too bit to fail.
After the bailouts the upper executives decided they deserved millions in bonuses.

The major cause of the Depression - lack of regulation on the Financial Institutions.
So what happened in 2008 with lack of regulation on the Financial Institutions.

Now the top 20% own 85% of the wealth.

Now for taxes and the deficit

1940 to 1980 top marginal rate 94% t0 70% above 90% paying of war debt.
Then in the 1980's the so called big tax cuts the top marginal rate dropped as low as 28%.
The problem the top marginal bracket dropped to $30000 - the middle class paid as much as the millionaires.
Then from 1992 to the early 2000's was getting more in balance - the top marginal rate of 39.6%.
In 2003 after Greenspand said he expected surpluses for a decade the tax rate was lowered to 35%

National Debt
form 1940 to 1980. The Deficit goes from $ 43 Billion to almost $1 Trillion. 40 years

from 1976 to 1980 The Deficit goes from $655 Billion to almost $950 Billion 4 years.
1980 to 1984 The Deficit goes from $950 Billion to almost $1.7 Trillion 4 years.
1984 to 1988 The Deficit goes from $1.7 Trillion to $ 2.6 Trillion 4 years.
1988 to 1992 The Deficit goes from $2.6 Trillion to $ 4.1 Trillion 4 years

1992 to 2000 The Deficit goes from $4.1 Trillion to $ 5.7 Trillion 8 years
2000 thru 2008 The Deficit goes from $5.7 Trillion to $11 Trillion 8 years

So what needs to be done?
I believe We need to cut waste - (such as the bridge to nowhere).
More income is needed - the rich has to pay a fair share of tax verses their income and wealth.
There needs to be regulatory laws in place to keep corporations from getting too big to fail.
and foreign trade laws need to be changed to "not free trade" but "fair trade"

this is a start but there are other issuers such as social issuers and ect. to be looked into.

One Demand... here are a

One Demand... here are a few...
Feel free to copy & paste and add on to the list.

1. Investigating and Prosecute the criminals on Wall Street for every fraud and financial crimes committed etc.

2. END CORPORATE WELFARE!

3. End corporate personhood

4. Reinstate Glass-Steagall

5. Ban flash trading

6. Robin Hood tax

7. A hedge fund billionaire must pay the same proportion of income in taxes as his secretary

8. Full Transparency between money and politicians

9. FULL DISCLOSURE OF ALL FINANCIAL "CONTRIBUTIONS"

10. Stop the Wars. We can not afford it.

11. Stop wasting $700 BILLIONS per year on military spending

12. A full audit of Federal Reserve

13. Stop the Big Brother society, illegal wiretappings etc.

14. Impose full Transparency in politics, business, banks

15. Stop the system of socialised losses and Privatised Gains for banks

16. All corporations have to pay taxes

17. Break-up Goldman Sachs. It's to powerful.

18. Get rid of Goldman Sachs ex-employers in the administration

19. Get rid of former Clinton advisors & Tim Geithner and put in people who fight for the 99%

20. Stop paying attention to what 0.1% wants and focus all the attention on the 99.9%

21 If you break it you pay for it. Make BP etc. pay the full -costs for their oil spills.

22. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in court.... That's how it is supposed to work.

23. If we really have a democracy politicians must listen and do what the majority wants them to do for the people

24. Kick Big Business and special Interests out of Politics

25. Student Loan Amnesty. The common experience of many of the protesters is that of being crushed by an outrageous burden of high interest student loans.

26. Stop Foreclosures. In the area of home foreclosures, the bankers have trampled on the law to seize millions of homes, some of which never had a mortgage, and many of which were current in their payments. The banks have used corrupt robo-signers, robo-cops, and robo-judges to carry out these fraudclosure thefts. The answer is to make foreclosure a federal crime, so that anyone who throws an American family out on the street will end up in Leavenworth. Under the New Deal, the Frazier-Lemke Act stopped all foreclosures on homes, provided only that the owners could get a minimal payment plan approved by any judge in any court. With the help of popular pressure and public opinion, foreclosures virtually came to a halt. This is what we need to be demanding today.

27. Defend and fully fund the social safety net. Wall Street and Washington elites agree that the American people ought to be subjected to genocidal austerity – cuts so draconian that they will kill people.

28. Pay for healthcare and social services with a 1% Wall Street Sales Tax.
...

"One demand" is like saying

"One demand" is like saying if you were granted one wish, what would it be?

So then if the majority went along with it as if it will be done if they just limit the demands or needs of life, truth, and justice and Peace to just one demand, the spokesmen for the ruling class could easily just say, that cannot be done in a free society with free markets and free bullshit.

"You demand sanity? so you are saying the world is insane?"

You see whatever you demand, one thing or all that we need, it will be put down as the demands of the Rabble Rousers, trouble makers and the insane.

It is better to keep them guessing about which demand is gonna make them face justice the quickest.

Truth is everything... and I demand it by finding it.

People just don't get it.

People just don't get it. This is a populist movement, there is no "One Demand" there are millions of demands.

The media and the government are desparately looking for a handle they can attack and use to demean and discredit it. Once they find a "credo" that represents the movement they can then pick a single focus point at the bottom of the scale, perhaps an ugly dishoveled black homeless Muslim teenager who is a victim of sexual abuse and suffers from incurable cancer, sickle cell, aids from the use of dirty needles in his drug addiction, and point the finger at him as the source of all the hoopla. This is the Media Way.

Until they get what they're looking for you won't see any coverage by MSM. Failing in that, the next process is to use right or left wing extremeist to get on the inside and create discontent, usually resulting in some type of false flag operation such as the 9/11 fiasco which results in the death of mass numbers of people. Now that is an event they can sink their teeth into.

What these kids want is for people to wake up and realise that EVERYTHING is wrong. Throw out religion, throw out politics, throw out capitalism, throw out the military, throw out "borders", throw out racism, throw out everything that divides and alienates the people.

They want the release of suppressed technology, they want disclosure of extraterrestrial involvement, they want truth in history, truth in government, truth in politics, truth in spirituality, truth in manufacturing, truth in food production and labeling, truth in business, truth in banking, truth in world events. They want the truth. That is their demand, TRUTH.

Occupy Wall Street

Occupy Wall Street Demands:

Z) 911 Investigation

Y) Abolish the Federal Reserve

X) Investigate ALL Political Players in

W) Widespread, geo and historical criminality

V) Indict those who have been found accessories or players under the American Justice system

U) Permit the Troops , and former troops, and military operatives to decide the Foreign DEFENSE Policy in an intellectual summit

T) Eliminate Lobbyists in the American Congress

S) Create infallible , triple redundant voting under constitutional guidance

R) Investigate and DETERMINE the constitutionality of the MEDIA and OWNERSHIP thereof pursuant to its use of socio-psychological programming

Q) Revert to the Gold and Silver standards as black letter law states in the US Constitution

A thru P is for the PATRIOTS who read this to

begin to OFFER to "WE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE"

to decide upon

Identifying problems is all

Identifying problems is all well & good, but if you are not willing to step up to the plate & propose solutions to those problems, then you are just whining, which is pretty much pointless. Until these clowns that are protesting realize that, they are going nowhere & fast!

Look at some of this movement's "demands" so far:
http://coupmedia.org/the-sovereign-peoples-movement.html

What does "Real Health Care Reform" actually mean?? If you don't know (and you're the one that's proposing it!), then how am I supposed to know??

The same thing foes for "restore true democracy to the government"...what the heck does that really mean??

"Repeal the 16th Ammendment" (spelling?)?? Yea, and pretty much end the ability of the federal govt. to generate enough revenue in a progressive fashion to do the work of the people...no thanks there...that's Tea Party nonsense.

"Rights of victims must take precedent in courts "...so much for innocent until proven guilty eh?? Ugh...

These people really need to get a clue...

Will investigating 9/11 again

Will investigating 9/11 again put anyone back to work, fix their student debt, or get their house back for them?? Nope. The same goes for abolishing the death penalty, whether you agree with doing that as a policy decision or not.

You can "abolish the Federal Reserve" all that you want to, but all that will mean is that the exact same things that the Fed does now will be done by the U.S. Treasury. As for "the Gold & Silver standards", we're so past the point of no return there that one only needs to roll one's eyes when one hears that kind of nonsense...ugh...

"Permit the Troops , and former troops, and military operatives to decide the Foreign DEFENSE Policy in an intellectual summit"

The military is not a democracy, and our country is NOT a direct democracy...it's a representative democracy. Take your anarchist nonsense elsewhere please.

I hope the Occupy Wall Street

I hope the Occupy Wall Street movement isn't co-opted by the unions the way the Tea Party movement was co-opted by the corporations. Unions are right in there with corporations trying to buy political influence with money. That's part of the insanity. The one, clear point is that we need a Congress that cannot be bought, and the only way that can be guaranteed is with a constitutional amendment along the lines of One Citizen, One Dollar, One Vote--only individual citizens can donate to political candidates and parties, and they can donate only one dollar to each candidate or party. Only when we have a Congress that cannot be bought--by anyone, left or right--will the insanity stop.

To me, the biggest insanity

To me, the biggest insanity was that the perpetrators of financial turmoil got rewarded with fat bonuses. Have they no shame? In other times or in other countries, heads would have rolled--and you can take that either literally or figuratively. It's probably impossible, but what I'd like to see as a step towards a solution is for that money to be taken away and pumped back into the economy. I'd also like to see ordinary middle class people who considered it prudent to invest some of their income in the stock market take a stand. That stand would involve speaking as shareholders and telling the rat bastards that they don't want their corporations maximizing profits by committing so much downsizing.

Does the name 'Ralph Nader'

Does the name 'Ralph Nader' ring a bell?

Nope, since you're really not

Nope, since you're really not qualified to be President of the USA if you've never held public office before. I respect Nader a lot for what he's done for consumers in the past, but he's just self-centered to the exclusion of everything else at this point.

You forgot the most important

You forgot the most important Who quote - "I'll get on my knees and pray, we don't get fooled again"

If it were just tats and nose

If it were just tats and nose rings, the police could deal with that - what they need to fear is the fact that there is a core of very sane people here, and they are demanding just that - sanity. There's lots of history about how to deal with the don't haves taking on the do haves. We've history with the proletariat, we've history with the bourgeoisie, but we don't have history when we've pissed off the lower and middle ranks of the meritocracy - seems to me that the powers that be have attempted to co-opt the bourgeoisie through the tea party but they wrote off the other two - big damn mistake

Sounds like me fourty years

Sounds like me fourty years ago. Sign me up.

Spot on article. If you

Spot on article. If you listen carefully to the narrative from our media it continues to blame the victims for the loss of their jobs. Another case of blaming a rape victim for their own rape. And we, instead of trying to understand, learn or seek truth, have been conditioned to accept without question. It is time to get up, throw open the window and shout 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna to take this anymore!' We need a 'Network' rerelease!

A more apt movie reference

A more apt movie reference might be "The Matrix." We are lulled/drugged asleep while being milked/slaughtered like a herd of cattle in a corporate feedlot.

War trials in WORLDCOURT for

War trials in WORLDCOURT for war criminalsTheHague 2012

THE NEW AMERICAN PIRATES, ARE

THE NEW AMERICAN PIRATES, ARE KILLING AMERICANS.

This story is not about glamorized or fictional piracy. This is, “real piracy.”

Hundreds of our wealthiest leaders and most powerful corporations know that in the next few years, they will be able to siphon, skim, and steal, so much “NEW CASH,” that they and their progeny will be ultra-rich for generations to come.

No, this is not funny, or fiction, or a conspiracy, it is just simple greed and simple theft.
The new pirates of America have launched an all-out siege on us in order to capture, amass, and hold trillions of dollars for themselves.

All of the recent political power grabs and nonsensical debating is purely a slight-of-hand deflection. President Obama, Democrats, Republicans, the International Press, and even the Tea Party, are watching the tiny pea in the shell game…while the rich and powerful “Piratical Right” is stealing America right out from under us.

Consider that their combined total plunder from corporate flipping, downsizing, offshore labor, speculation, price fixing of oil and energy plus, corruption in defense, health care, banking, student loans, foreclosures, etc., etc., is a trillion dollar treasure for these pirates.
Go ahead, put your own calculator to it.

Are they smarter than we are? Yes, and they are laughing at us. I, we, you, and all of us, have not been able see the big picture of what is happening to our own country and to our own people. The rape and theft of America, has been cleverly packaged, promoted, and sold under the guise of “cost-cutting,” “deregulation,” and “free enterprise.”

The “Piratical Right” is directly responsible for millions of people dying, getting sick, losing their jobs and homes, losing their ability to fight, their spirit, and even losing their will to live. The sick smell of this carnage now permeates the air across America.

To us, this is all unimaginable, because we look for some sense or the morality of things. These modern-day American pirates however, have no moral compass. They are devoid of any conscience, humanity or soul, and are feeding on the flesh of the American people.

Don’t look to the President, the Senate, Congress, the press, or any political party to help. Sadly, they just don’t see it, don’t care, or are part of it. “We the people” are on our own. Start asking questions. Demand answers. If we don’t fight back America…who will?

History has taught us how to stop piracy.

By Mr. S. Pimpernel 10/01/2011

Keeping it honest: Remember

Keeping it honest: Remember the Movie: “Wall Street?” Isn’t Greed supposed to be NOT good?
So many news articles stating that American protesters have “no clear “agenda? It seems crystal clear to the middle class America that they are frustrated by the lack of concern that exists for the people in this country who need jobs and hope to support themselves and families.
Millions of unemployed people looking for work in this country are being ignored and slowly erased by mega-corporations whose only concern is for their obscene profits far exceed anyone’s understanding!
The beauty and treasured tradition of America allows people the freedom to unite and speak out to draw attention to these huge social injustices. It’s about time that Americans did and said, “we are mad as hell and we are not going take it any longer!”
For the record, “Greed is Not good”; it’s ugly, selfish, obscene and destructive for our society. After all, We are a still a democracy, not aristocracy! Just look around this great county!
" It's no surprise that the Romney campaign and his republicans buddies in the Congress are raising money from Wall Street by saying they want to repeal consumer protections sand allow Wall Street to write its own rules," KEEPING IT HONEST: Wall Street, a key contributor to Obama in 2008, seems to be switching allegiances.
" Hum.. I wonder why? Maybe the gang on Wall Street does not wish to alienate “their” representatives? Mr. Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy and Ryan and Senator McConnell and his 43 obstructionists in the senate that are provided their campaign funds! After all, this same Wall Street Gang were the direct recipients of trillion dollar tax payer bailout with no conditions and used it some of it for bonuses! According to Senator Bernie Sanders, it is now clear that the Republicans /hypocrites made pledges that they are for their “only” plan of continuing its Class War against the middle Class to protect their rich Millionaires on Wall street and Billions like the Gover Norquest, Russ Limbaugh, Rupert Murdock and others like the Koch Brothers that provide them their campaign funds! Their plan was never about creating American jobs for the unemployed middle class! LET'S PUBLICLY LIST THE NAME OF EVERY POLITICIAN AND WALL STREET GIVER SO AMERICAN CAN KNOW WHO IS ON "TAKE" AND SELLING MIDDLE AMERICA OUT!

Remember the Stewart "Rally

Remember the Stewart "Rally to Restore Sanity"? I was there and, like many others, I was disappointed. It was like a "Rally to Suggest, 'Come On, Folks. Let's All Just Have Fun and Be Sane Together."

Maybe we really should see the Wall Street protests as a *demand* to be sane. How is sanity embodied in action? That's where specifics like abolishing the death penalty come in. Merely to focus on the specifics without grounding them in considerations of character and rationality would be like cutting off their roots before transplanting seedlings.

The wild card, the

The wild card, the uncontrollable factor of free will, a field of wheat to feed the world and it's people, and not a single genetically modified plant to control the others, a dynamic moving like water to the sea, an alignment of planets and mind, a tilting of galaxies and a virtual reality taking hold--a movement in the process of being born.

I believe Robin Williams has

I believe Robin Williams has the answer;have the politicians wear the names of their lobbyists on their suit coats, like Nascar drivers, so everybody can see who has bought their vote!!!

Now this is f'ing rich "But

Now this is f'ing rich

"But the banks they trusted, who sold them mortgages on the false promise that real estate values would rise forever, and who then when on a crime spree, walked away free."

So the homeowner who overreached for a property they couldn't afford wasn't affected by greed in any way? Gimme a f'ing break.

I guess I'm one of those

I guess I'm one of those greedy homeowners. My wife and I wanted to protect our home by replacing a roof that was beginning to leak and to make other repairs. We decided to refinance our house.

The loan officer at the bank told us our property had been appraised at a value that seemed way too high to me, given past experience. I have an earned Ph.D. from a prestigious research university, and at the time I had been teaching college for over 30 years. Nevertheless, at that point I really didn't know a lot about real estate or about mortgage financing. The woman to whom we were talking was an expert in precisely those areas. She was, in fact, a rising star.

So we trusted her. We were foolishly naive.

The culture of Wall Street and major banks might be based on greed, but that doesn't mean every individual banker is greedy. And not every individual who trusted a banker and ended up losing everything is greedy either.

Thank you, Scarabus. Your

Thank you, Scarabus.

Your situation is not unique.

When you do your "due diligence", when you do your research before you make a committment like a re-mortgage, to whom is it logical to turn? Bankers.

And BEFORE they led us into the crash we had no reason to feel they could not be trusted.

The "homeowner who

The "homeowner who overreached for a property they (sic) couldn't afford" was often manipulated by, lied to, required to sign documents in a language he or she could not read and had his or her signature forged by the 'banks they trusted'. Unfortunately the homeowner was neither rewarded with an extravagant bonus nor bailed out by a government program. Instead he or she lost a a home and the investment in the property made by a down payment and/or closing costs often inflated by the same banks.

That is SO right,

That is SO right, cycampbell.

Idiots like Chris Thompson are either clueless or former bankers trying to get themselves off the hook.

Well it seems they now have

Well it seems they now have some principles in common with the right wing religious loonies they despise by and large. Strange bedfellows in our future perhaps?

how does one know if they are

how does one know if they are right or left? all i know is i'm american.

I have no idea what you are

I have no idea what you are saying. Do you? I thought not.

The kids aren't afraid of

The kids aren't afraid of losing the money, cars, jobs, investments, grants, and phD research papers that they don't have. The 9/11 hijackers weren't afraid of losing the stuff they didn't have either. Those in power genuinely fear those who have nothing to lose save their lives and immediate comfort. They're not afraid of the guy pushing a baby stroller and taking a "sick day." They are very, very afraid of the 23 year old men and women with tats, nose rings, a whole lot of courage, and a long list of damn good reasons to be angry.

"People have been waiting for

"People have been waiting for someone to connect the dots. They've been waiting for someone to explain how these forces act together and work together to exploit us"

Aldous Huxley connected the dots when he wrote "Brave New World". All this has been obvious for the last 30 years, while most people remained asleep.

Yes. This not about whether

Yes. This not about whether to tax the rich more. It's about taxing the rich more and stopping the mother-fers in Congress from giving it back to them.

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http://books.wwnorton.com/books/978-0-393-30623-1/

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